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by Eddie Rawls
Let me get right to the point: Conservatives just don’t do well with comedy. Intrinsically, they are simply unfunny. It’s been proven and stuff. This is because… they suck the taint from the fringe of my balls I’m about to teabag them with.
I wasn’t looking for trouble. Trouble came dunkng for me.
See, I’m addicted to this cyber-gadget I’ve written blogged about before. Twitter. Perhaps you’ve heard of this contraption. I think it’s the offspring of an illegal iGay relationship between Jobs and Gates. I dunno.
I dabble in politics. Mostly, lately, I try to stay out of it (aside from the post I stuck here yesterday). Today had to be different though. Here’s the offending tweet:
@dmataconis: @markos Has any liberal been funny since The Smothers Brothers ?
Are you fucking kidding me?
Now, I may stink. Let’s grant that out for you sheep dag logicians who will resort to arguments such as that later on down the yellow brick road made of cyberbits.
Take my lame intertubes-comedy powers away from me. They were never there to begin with anyhow, right? I suck. We can assume this arguendo. I couldn’t do standup if my Mom was on life-support and in need of one laugh in a room full of stoners. Like, I really suck. Happy? Ok? Granted. Here we go…
The Smothers Brothers? No liberal comedy since then? Please. Liberals fucking own comedy bitches.
If you don’t like it, don’t watch and read our shit. Go watch Glenn Fucking Beck and his testicle retracting comedy tour. Maybe George Will is doing the Def Comedy Jam at The Apollo. Why do I feel the need to even write that which is self-evident? Why must I use an allusion to The Constitution I know Tea-Baggers won’t get in the latter sentence? Do they even understand the difference between the words, former and latter? I know that confuses the little fuckers.
But I impress.
Let me get those not blessed with a life in Twitter Hell up to speed. “@Markos” is Markos Moulitsas — the fellow who started The Daily Kos and the internet. The other gentleman, umm… did not start the internet. He’s a libertarian and free to read this if he’d like. By doing so of course, he becomes a communist. Like me.
Anyhosers, I couldn’t let that shit stand. I mean come on. Liberals own comedy. Like it or not, it is what it is. Markos got involved. The interwebs got involved. A cacophony of libertarian and conservative comedy collaborators coincided and cluttered my mention box which sadly, does not begin with the letter, “c.”
So, I challenged the bastards. To a comedian draft. Anything goes in cyberspace, and it doesn’t get more intellectually lame than this. Has to be a record. A comedy draft. I am a fool. To the windmills…
I gave my opponents (and by proxy with Markos via a retweet) a head start. They could pick the first ten comedians and I’d help them. The aforementioned libertarian came up with Drew Carrey. That was it. Ok. I’ll give him Drew Carrey. He’s on The Price Is Right. I’ll be damned before cursing the grounds a wayward Yodeler battles with a yellow ruler.
Tweets flew in. No named comedians though. I had to help. I gave them Penn Jillette, a self-proclaimed libertarian whose name I might have misspelled. One could argue he’s a magician, but, I’m happy to be a reasonable sort. They can have friggin’ Penn. He’s an Aristocrat and gets a pass.
Who else? Dennis Miller. The only punchline for him would involve some serious fisting.
Oh yeah. Frazier.
That’s pretty much where conservatives and comedy stop. To a death-mobile crashing halt. Unless you count Palin from the other night — but, if you’re like me, massive organ failure is not comedy. One could argue Leno is a conservative (don’t know), but then you’d have to further contend Leno attempts comedy.
From the top of my head: John Belushi, Lenny Bruce, Rodney Dangerfield, Richard Pryor, Tina Fey, Eddie Murphy, Sarah Silverman, Lisa Lampanelli, SNL, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Howard Stern, Joan Rivers, George Carlin, Cheech, Chong, David Letterman, Dave Chappelle, Dave Attel, Larry David (I could do a list of Daves), Rob Delaney, Gladstone, G. Xavier Robillard, Richard Lewis, Jerry Seinfeld, my jock strap from eighth grade, this shoe horn, Senator Al Franken, and my middle finger.
Get real. I present a challenge. Come up with ten comedians who are outspoken and conservative or whatever. You can’t. I’ll line up ten of my comedians. We’ll get some blades, a couple of broken beer bottles, the tunes from West Side Story, and a bunch of coke. It’ll be swell.
With that, I leave you in a wake of cyber-blood and guts and the souls of lost abortions and chicken sandwiches and all the internet has to offer.
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Your otherwise correct point is undermined by your mistake in suggesting that the phrase 'self evident' appears in the Constitution, instead of the Declaration of Independence
Janeane Garofalo
According to Keith Olbermann, Rush Limbaugh is the foremost conservative comedian.
I’ll defer to Olbermann on this (since Olbermann himself has a better sense of humor than any right winger you can name).
Mike Nelson from MST3k is one of the funniest guys on the planet, and he's a conservative. Otherwise, this assessment is spot-on.
One of the South Park guys is.
MST3K is the greatest underrated TV show of all time.
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What's also self-evident is you present one comedian. Fair enough. You blew it up! But remember, I grant out that I suck and make mistakes. Now, show me your team.
Shoq and myself will give up Gallagher for the rights to the soul of your first born male.
Also, what's 2+2?
"you present NOT one comedian." Typo. You gonna bash my article and typos or are you gonna offer up some substance?
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Here's the libertarian team: Jason Alexander, Dave Barry, Lewis Black, Drew Carey,
Tommy Chong, Paul Driscoll, Brett Erickson, Jeff Foxworthy, Chip Franklin, Kinky Friedman, Abdul Hakim-Shabazz,, Penn Jillette, Kenny Kramer ,Denis Leary, Andrew Levy , Doug Powers, Tim Slagle, Doug Stanhope, Rich "Jackie Vegas" Stein,Teller, Jimmy J.J. Walker.
We can all agree conservatives are santorum sucking black holes of humor. And we should also agree that it is self evident that neither conservatives nor liberals have ever bothered even reading the fucking constitution. Also, after The Marriage Ref, Seinfeld is really dragging your team down.
I'll assume these are pure libertarians without liberal leanings who would vote Democratic. For argument's sake, let's assume you are completely right to pigeonhole these folks to be exclusive of a liberal ideology while being a libertarian. Nuance is for the birds. Further, I'll assume they are as big a libertarian as Ron Paul on Meth.
We still kick your ass.
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Never said we would win, just putting a team on the court. And man do I love meth.
Penn Jillette doesn't count. He's a diehard atheist, promotes things like legalizing prostitution and drugs nationwide, and therefore cannot be conservative.
And let's not confuse libertarian with conservative. Many libertarian views are very UN-conservative.
PMHarrell I wouldn't call Lewis Black a libertarian, just healthily skeptical. I'm a died in the wool liberal and I don't remember ever disagreeing with him about anything. He just likes to make fun of pitiful dems, something they often deserve. Jason Alexander also strikes me as an old school liberal, though maybe you know something I don't. The South Park guys, however, are both much more conservative that they are liberal, though they like to be nonaligned these days, and they are brilliant. Larry Miller is actually the conservative who recruited Dennnis Miller (but, unlike DM, he's managed to stay funny while being a conservative), and Rob Long from "Cheer" probably recruited Frazier. Colin Quinn leans right and is pretty funny. P.J. O'Rourke always makes me laugh.
Still, the libs are dominant in comedy, no doubt about it. I could spend the rest of the year listing them
None of these guys are libertarians except Drew Carey and Penn Gilette. Lewis Black? Denis Leary? They're liberals. They are leftists, Democrats, New Dealers. How do you figure a Jew and an Irish Catholic could be anything but Liberal? Get your facts straight.
Dennis Leary is not a libertarian.
too bad gallagher is totally unfunny…
Adam Sandler? He's a right-wing buffoon, but that's mostly just because he's a buffoon.
Here's one for you: the incredibly lame BRAD STINE. Talk about a snoozer of a comedian….but definitely a conservative and a conservative Christian at that. Google him on Youtube and be prepared to have your insomnia cured! However, liberals dominate comedy.
In fact, I daresay that I cannot think of one funny female comedian who is conservative. Kathy Griffin, Margaret Cho, Judy Gold are all pretty funny and not in the least bit conservative.
Bill Hicks motherfucker!
as in he single handedly kicks everyone's ass.
Norm MacDonald and Jackie Mason are, in my opinion, very funny conservatives. Penn Jillette is not funny and never has been. I don't know how anyone could even suggest he is a comic. Dennis Miller is a purported comedian but he is simply not funny. Every joke he has ever done is the same - start out with some highbrow vocabulary set up and end up in the toilet. But hey, he's made millions with that. Dennis Leary is also not funny. I can't remember his name, but the fellow who used to have a show on Comedy Central that Leary was a regular on can be mildly amusing at times. But more ofter than not, he is like Leary - snide. Mancow is an unfunny Dick.
Newsflash! Libertarian does not equal Conservative. Legalizing pot & gay marriage, against the patriot act and the war in Iraq are not hallmarks of conservatism.
Leno was once a self-identified Republican, but I doubt he was too conservative. After the last eight yrs of Bush I doubt he's a Republican.
Someone commented that one of the South Park guys is. Conservatives wanted to call these guys their own, and even came up with a term "South Park conservatives," because they often make fun of liberals. But if you watch closely, they make fun of conservatives even more. They have been quoted on record in favor of gun control. Criticisms of liberals have been mostly "aging hippy liberal douche" and Al Gore's ManBearPig, while they have crucified Glenn Beck in their last episode and had some pretty damaging episodes of GW Bush. The "Terry Schiavo" episode won an award. I think I heard once that they do think of themselves more as libertarians so I guess you can chalk them up to that group.
I'm waiting for a conservative to say "Steven Colbert!!!"
Guest is right. Further, there are substantial points of agreement between progressives and Penn's brand of libertarianism (no idea about Drew Carey).
All humor derives from realistic observation of the human condition. (This is why many comedians are depressives.) Conservatives are incapable of realistically observing the human condition; they are defined by denial of reality. (Of course, liberals are *over*sensitive to the human condition, which leads to the opposite problem.)
All conservative humor is from the 'how many liberals does it take to change a lightbulb A: none, because I murdered them all in a violent rage last night, those uppity pinko negro-lovers' school of comedy. They don't want to laugh, they want to sieg heil.
The South Park guys have both said they don't care either way, there goal is to lampoon everyone and everything.
Al Franken has probably read the Constitution.
Sorry, I'm a bit confused right now with all this 'Libertarian' talk as if somehow it means 'Conservative'.
I'm as Libertarian as they come I imagine, but I'm more of a socialist/progressive than most every pundit I've ever seen or heard of.
As far as I'm concerned, being Libertarian means you don't want the government involved with your personal life, or making choices for you. Thereby: I'm a libertarian, and I think all drugs should be legal and taxed; gay marriage should be legal as well. Again, I'm a libertarian and I believe the only role the government should have is the protection and support of the people, and I don't consider corporations people. Government should heavily regulate the shit out of corporations, and the government should provide social benefits to help the people, increase funding for education and whatnot.
I'm still amazed at the idea that for-profit organizations could ever be put in charge of something like health-care, we should have single-payer.
I could go on, but the point I'm making here is that I think it's utterly ridiculous to assume that people who say they are libertarian are automatically conservative.
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No way Lewis Black is a libertarian:
Black has described his political affiliation as: "I'm a socialist, so that puts me totally outside any concept…the Canadians get it. But seriously, most people don't get it. The idea of capping people's income just scares people. 'Oh, you're taking money from the rich.' Ooh, what a horrifying thing. These people really need $200 million". admittedly from wikipedia but rings true with his comedy.
That makes me question some of the other people you list on that team.
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bill hicks bump motherfucker!
I'm not sure about Colbert. The other night he had a conservative guest on and under his breath Stephen said he agreed with the guest's ideology.
I would argue that once Joel left MST3k and Mike substituted him, the show went downhill. Joel was much funnier.
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And I'd read that one of them leans libertarian, but I don' t think they count for anything…
Does the entire RNC count? I mean, they are a joke.
And you left off that funny darling of the RW internets, PJ Comix. His skits included trying to get a dying Democrat kicked out of a hospital….well, he thought it was funny…
Huh? What?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lynn-davidson/2009/0...
She was part of Air America for pete's sake!
Or was this a joke.
Seriously, it sucked.
So you must be a conservative.
It's been mentioned, but since when do people classify libertarians as conservatives? My conservative friends recoil in dread from libertarians or cherry-pick the issues the identify themselves with that could also be seen as libertarian, excluding just about every social issue imaginable.
Penn Jillette, btw, is more "liberal" about a lot of crazy shit than I am. And I'm a crazy, crazy, zany leftie liberal.
Hello? You forgot Wanda Sykes!
Does this sound like a conservative (from Wikipedia):
William Melvin "Bill" Hicks (December 16, 1961 – February 26, 1994) was an American stand-up comedian and social critic. His humor challenged mainstream beliefs, aiming to "enlighten people to think for themselves."[1] Hicks used a ribald approach to express his material, describing himself as "Chomsky with dick jokes."[1] His jokes included general discussions about society, religion, politics, philosophy and personal issues. Hicks' material was often deliberately controversial and steeped in dark comedy. In both his stand-up performances, and during interviews, he often criticized consumerism, superficiality, mediocrity and banality within the media and popular culture, describing them as oppressive tools of the ruling class, meant to "keep people stupid and apathetic."[2]
It was a slight dip, not downhill. It was better with Joel. Their deliveries were different, but I think its a matter of taste with who was better. The thing Joel had was that Mike was his head writer, so they had the comedic talent of both of them, while Mike didn't have the Joel genius. The Mike era had some of my favorite episodes. "The FInal Sacrifice", "The Wild Wild World of Batwoman" and "Red Zone Cuba" are all brilliant.
Did someone actually say that Jackie Mason or Norm MacDonald are funny? I will give the conservatives Dane Cook, though, but I don't consider him funny either.
Lewis Black?? Seriously??
"Chomsky with dick jokes". is how Hicks Describes himself. Lookup Chomsky if you are still thinking Hicks is a conservative
Honestly, PJ O'Rourke makes you laugh? Whoa.
OMG, Jackie Mason??? Kill me now.
Stephen stays in character and his character is a conservative Bill Reilly clone. Remember his classic performance at the White House correspondents' DInner (with George Bush in attendance): "Reality has a well-known liberal bias."
How about Ben Stein…HI-larious, right? The guy's a laugh-a-minute. Buehler…Buehler… Cracks me up everytime. And, don't get me started on his financial advice.
Sandler was a put big money on Giuliani for Pres.
I don't know how you can honestly judge what political philosophies are held by people that make a living making audiences laugh.
First, serious conflicts of interest can intrude on topical humor when a stand-up is trying to "make it" in showbiz. Example: Richard Prior. He started out as a Cosby clone, but then realized he could "make it" better as a hysterical black everyman. What was more important, telling the truth, or making it?
Second, we are faced with a tough question: What's really funny? Amazingly, opinions differ. Some people think Dennis Miller's obscure references to some Hollywood producer's gay hair stylist are the epitome of knee slappers. Not me. What's funny to me is that whenever I see or hear Dennis Miller, I get a painful Herpes breakout on my dick. Apparently this strain of the virus is able to detect Dennis Miller, and reacts accordingly.
So, people can go ahead and make their lists, but when it comes to comedy, each of us must rely on gut instincts, or in my case, my dick.
Saw a quote from Colbert that went something like: "I don't hate Republicans. I hate the policies they push on us."
Bill Maher has always described himself as a Libertarian. To me, which matters most to everyone when describing humor, Maher is not very funny and has very poor delivery. I think, however, that he makes some very good points and, as most comedians do, has some very good analogies.
Bill Hicks, dead, is funnier than any 15 living conservative comedians.
And you'd better not forget Marc Maron.
Dennis Miller is definitely conservative and is now totally unfunny.His decent into totally unfunniness seemed to correspond with the fact that he became more conservative after 9-11. Last time I witnessed Miller attempt humor was on the tonight show where he made jokes about assassinating Ahmadinejad.
Leno: What do you make of the Iraq Policy? Do you approve or disapprove?
Miller: What I think is going to happen here is that Iraq and Iran are going to get together and form, "I-rock-on". It will be good that we have a place in Iraq we take off from. All we have to do is change the Q to an N on the bombs so we can get on with the next one. Because the little "aqua-Velva-jad" or whatever the hell his name is over in Iran - does anyone look at him and think we can talk with him!? Do you see us talking to him!? Of course not, we got to throw down on this guy! I mean it’s just that simple. He doesn’t believe the Holocaust happened, he believes Israel should be eliminated. This is a bad guy, I’m glad he wears the white suit because when we eventually do croak him they’ll be a nice splatter pattern for the CSI guys. I don’t know Jay what are supposed to do, pretend we’re going to get on with this guy, HE"S NUTS! It just that simple.
Swoosh, gong, hilarious stuff. Dropping bombs on people is sidesplittingly funny ain't it?
I'm pretty sure that freaking ALL of Monty Python would qualify as liberal, what with the constant nudity and the mockery of religion and the upper class twits and Terry Jones smacking down George Bush and all.
Comedy is inherently anti-establishment; it attacks sacred cows and holds nothing above ridicule. Conservative is pretty much the exact opposite of that.
They did a cartoon for a Michael Moore movie. That makes it pretty up in the air, no?
Yes - My pops knew the Monty Python guys and they're all liberals. I can confirm Michale Palin and Terry Jones for sure.
Yeah… um… in no way is Hicks conservative. He once described himself as a democratic socialist and compared himself to "chomsky with dick jokes." Sorry conservatives, you don't get to claim Bill motherfrakkin' Hicks.
Rich Little, although his 40 year old stand-up and D.C. dinner a few years ago was painful
For anyone still trying to cite Bill Hicks as a conservative… have you not listened to his material on Rush Limbaugh, George H.W. Bush, the Christian right, legalizing drugs, the first gulf war, gays in the military, etc? Listen to it. Bill Hicks was as free spirit and liberal as they come. Just because he spoke with a southern drawl you assume he's conservative? Listen to the material, not the accent. Nope, Bill Hicks is off limits to your pantheon of conservative comedians. But you do get to have Larry the Cable Guy!
The Conservative draft can have Bill Cosby and Tom Green.
Cosby preaches family values and Tom Green humped a dead moose. Res ipsa loquitur.
Bill Hicks definitely struck me as Libertarian though,
It's just for some reason in this thread people have been associating libertarians with conservatives. Even though to my mind the two couldn't be possibly less related. Conservatives want to shove religion and patriotism down your throat.
I mean, where do you think 'liberal' comes from?
Two kinds of Libertarian: Ron Paul Libertarians and Noam Chomsky Libertarians. The two are very similar in how they view the problems of the world, and yet are distinctively different in their solutions. I'd put most Libertarian comedians into the Chomsky crowd, personally.
Only had to go back to 1958. Priceless.
Larry the Cable Guy? Oh wait, you said comedian.
Lewis Black is no libertarian. He is a self-described socialist.
Lewis Black is a self-described socialist.
I got this "liberals have no sense of humor" line from a sales guy at our company Christmas party. What it means is "when we mock poor people and say that women whose politics we disagree with are all ugly and talk about shooting libs and tell you it's a joke, you get all offended instead of laughing."
I think only talking about standup is too limiting — if you include comedy writers, there's virtually nothing conservatives have laughed at (other than the aforementioned mean-spirited jokes by wingnut radio hosts and cartoonists) that *wasn't* written by liberals. Case in point, Dennis Miller. He could be pretty amusing sometimes before he turned to the dark side. His performance style hasn't changed, but when he became a conservative, all his writers quit.
Sam Kinison was probably the only comedian to be funny with an explicitly conservative worldview. Of course, his humor was based on a no holds barred misanthropy so that was probably a factor. PJ O'Roarke is funny, but the conservatism he espouses bears little resemblance to today's right wing.
While Adam Sandler is a neocon, his "comedy" is fairly apolitical pablum for dullards. Lawrence, the Man of Cable is probably the prototype conservative comedian. Which pretty much say it all.
A libertarian is someone who'll drink and smoke up with you, and then duck out before the check comes due.
Check out the profanity laced diatribe and the comments. You left the party of JFK a long time ago. FDR on WIll Rogers:
“His humor and his comments were always kind. His was no biting sarcasm that hurt the highest or the lowest of his fellow citizens. When he wanted people to laugh out loud, he used the methods of pure fun. And when he wanted to make a point for the good of mankind, he used the kind of gentle irony that left no scars behind it.”
– President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
You forgot Lewis Black & Ron White in your long list of "off the top of your head" comedians.
And for the other side, who are those hicks that do the white trash comedy tour? Larry the Cable Guy appears with them…"you might be a redneck if…"
Totally agree with basic thesis, but have to admit that John Swartzwelder (though not a comedian) is really funny.
That's the brilliane of Colbert. He PRETENDS to be one of "them" (a Conservative) while actually poking fun at them….and many of them fall for it too.
That's the brilliane of Colbert. He PRETENDS to be one of "them" (a Conservative) while actually poking fun at them….and many of them fall for it too.
Hear! Hear!
And when is OUR government going to take the side of its People for a change and DEFEND us against these Corporations instead of selling us out to them?
Fully Wanda goes on there. @nman! I spaced on that. I was really high when I wrote this. It wasn't too hard.
What do you guys think I should write next? And, BTW, one of the South Park guys is a Libertarian… which isn't a bad word. When construed to an extreme or logical end, it becomes sort of a clusterfuck. The problem with the country today is the fighting. Really, at the end of the day, if we all just went to a bar, chilled out, got laid, and talked, most reasonable folks should come to reasonable conclusions. Yet, that ain't the way it is
It sucks.
America's not supposed to be like that. In part, I fuck with fringe elements, but, people should unite and work shit out. One way is w/ comedy. The other is watching Bill and Ted.
Figure out what I should write up next. Or not. I do diarrhea jokes a lot.
Thaks for stopping by. Oh yeah, if I opened up a can on anyone, that's because I know I don't know the answers. Just that someone ain't right.
He's found a way to dip into Skoal and #tcot comedy. I'd rather look at my dong.
Dennis Miller makes me want to kill puppies.
Sam was the king. Don't google shit. Try to tell me how he died. After that, go find the "Torch Song" with him and Rodney Dangerfield."
What about my balls?
What about RFK's finger? Google National Lampoon and Obscure Parts of the American Body Politic.
Profanity was used a lot by FDR b/c his legs couldn't fucking work. He had a pigmented lesion too. FACT
Con todo respecto Don Mackerooni,
The "I Forgot" is not a good comedic argument! Remember, I suck. And, was just shooting from the hip. I thought I put Lewis on there actually. I remember thinking him. Pot is evil.
Thank you.
Nice.
Can't find your dick. Probably not the first you've heard that. You're right. Sarah Silverman is really Jesus.
Thanks! I don't see a debate here really. Just an observation. Just getting to some of the comments.
Always look on the bright side of life.
bing.
Of course those on the left are funnier. Look, comedy is basically a subversive act. It fights against authority, hypocrisy and the so-called "establishment".
If you're a self-identified "conservative", you believe not only in maintaining the status quo, but often that progressive advances need to be repealed - if only to return to some Normal Rockwell-esque fantasy America that never really existed. Comedy (when it's really good) points out the ludicrous nature of those in power. Their lies, their bullshit. If you support those in power, there's very little funny you can glean.
And why wasn't the first name anyone mentioned the king himself, LENNY BRUCE
w/o Lenny, there's no Pryor, no Stewart, just Don Rickles calling people "Hockey Pucks"
And while I'm here - GEORGE CARLIN (g*d rest his soul).
Oh heavens yes! How could we forget Carlin? Man was the preemminent Master of "intelligent" comedy. He is missed.
I disapprove of Parties and labels for Parties because as soon as you announce your affiliation with one, peoples' minds close. I prefer to call myself an "engaged American citizen" when people insist on knowing my "label."
The problem with libertarians is that they buy the "free enterprise" propaganda that only government is the enemy and completely ignore the power of giant corporations.
We didn't forget George! He's up there.
Was just shooting from the hip! The point is, we kick butt. Who's on the non-lib squad? Do they have 10 yet?
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Everyone disagrees with labels. It's not as if there is nuance in society. Being a liberal, truly, allows for a wide range of philosophies. Go find a book called, "A Theory Of Justice." Finally, my philosophy degree paying off.
Lewis Black would definitely belong to the liberal camp. I once saw him talking about his father, who was a civil servant, in very proud tones.He then went on to say what I consider to be the essence of the liberal message: that the American people are great and they deserve a government that is great.
Maybe instead of getting bogged down into discussions of whether someone is liberal/conservative/progressive/libertarian/etc. we should just stick to political affiliation.
So who has more comedians: the Republicans or the Democrats?
Don't ever forget Eddie Izzard on the liberal side. Funniest comedian ever, imho.
yep. To these sorts of idiots, racist and sexist jokes are all they find funny, so liberals are inherently lacking in the humor department. They're the kind whose funny bone is set off when Rush Limbaugh says "reporterette." Says a lot more about them than about us.
What about Eddie's Lizard? He's a reptile.
This is a good point. If I had styled it that way, things would have been easier. In fact, this is an excellent point.
See? This is called give and fucking take. What reasonable people try to do. This is why Republicans, as they currently exist, can eat me.
On the other hand, I kind of like the way things turned out in the comments. Love it. There's actually good discussion here. Part of the strength of my argument is granting out I suck. The gist of the contention really can't be disputed.
Like here's the thing. If everyone just started doing shit jokes and the like, this country would be better off. Too much division. C'mon. Farts make everyone happy. Obama should start farting more. He's the best. Maybe I'll write about Obama and his farts. It's early though. I don't think the internet has written about that.
I would agree. I am very impressed with Al - and we know Dennis Kucinich (and Ron Paul on the right to be fair) has read the constitution. Bernie Sanders probably has too.
Conservatives for the most part are busy working, if more of them swam in the unemployment ether they would be alittle lighter in general